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Andrew's avatar

I am down to try out plantain on some high blood pressure. Have to figure out some dosing but I think we have some on the land already. Been using hawthorn and hibiscus. What would be the kidneys interference signs to watch for?

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Amy Walsh's avatar

Unfortunately, kidney insufficiency is very difficult to tell from just symptoms (i.e. without blood work) Often symptoms don't develop until disease is severe. That said, plantain was used effectively to protect the kidneys from injury due to chemotherapy medications so I think it is low risk at least in comparison to prescription antihypertensives.

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Melissa Cullens's avatar

OMG when I saw it was plantains this week I was so excited LOL! I have been dying to know more about them because they are EVERYWHERE. I love tuesdays!

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Amy Walsh's avatar

They are everywhere! This is whay I love, these plants that are so healing for us and the earth are just like punching us in the face trying to get our attention :) Also, aside from being psychic, I do take requests :)

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Caroline Osella's avatar

Been reading Seed Sistas on plantain, a delightful plant and a superhero. Wish people were less timid about what's in the garden and much more timid about pharmaceuticals made and marketed for profit. Thanks for your lovely work.

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Amy Walsh's avatar

Please let us know if Seed Sistas has anything to add to the story. I think medicine really internalized this idea that nature (in my opinion our bodies included) is the wild, dangerous thing that needs to be tamed. Similarly, I think that the lack of standardization in herbal medicine is probably the biggest challenge to mainstream acceptance of herbal medicine. It's interesting though, basically what we say when we do that is we would rather be in control with more side effects than let go of control and have less side effects. Stay tuned, those thoughts may percolate into an essay of their own...

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Caroline Osella's avatar

Absolutely. I used to teach medical anthropology. Two interesting bits of that included learning about traditional Chinese medicine and Ayurveda and stuff like the place of honey in Islamic medicine; and learning abtthe history of the biomedical world view and how European capitalist modernist rationalities dramatically shifted how we thought about the body, the outside world, etc. I could go on for too long about this lol. But yes. Absolutely.

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Kollibri terre Sonnenblume's avatar

I'm looking forward to that essay, whenever it emerges!

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Geneviève Hopkins's avatar

Thank you Amy, that was a very interesting, useful and well researched article.

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Amy Walsh's avatar

Thanks' Genevieve, I'm so glad it's useful to you. Right now I'm picking plants based on our schedule for a plant spirit group I'm leading, but if you every have any requests I'm all ears.

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Geneviève Hopkins's avatar

No requests, just happy to be along for the ride!

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Beth K's avatar

What a great article! I will be on the lookout for this in our yard... it sounds very useful :-)

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Amy Walsh's avatar

Thanks so much! I would be surprised if you can't find it. If you need any help making a salve or tincture, there's a video for that back in my old posts too.

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Caroline Osella's avatar

Seed Sistas on plantain. https://youtu.be/fcKuZGlOduA?si=y23yNo7FV9AkiA6G

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Amy Walsh's avatar

Awesome, I'll check it out!

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Kollibri terre Sonnenblume's avatar

Great article on one of my favorite plants!

I will add that Plantago is Latin for "footprint," reflecting the plant's affinity for the compact soil along paths. So, this plant was named "footprint" twice in history, centuries and continents apart!

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Amy Walsh's avatar

Thank you! That is interesting how the footprint moniker seems to follow Plantain where ever they go. What makes Plantain one of your favorite plants?

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Kollibri terre Sonnenblume's avatar

First I should say that my list of "favorite" plants probably contains a few hundred species, lol.

But I have a special fondness for the "ruderal" species -- those who are adapted to disturbance -- and especially those adapted to human disturbance. I am inspired by their pluckiness and exuberance. Perhaps also, feeling out of place in my own human culture, I appreciate their ability to make the most of it.

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Amy Walsh's avatar

I can see that we are going to be friends :) I also have a soft spot for those tenacious disturbance lovers, and nettles who come in a bit later in succession, but are misunderstood for other reasons.

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Kollibri terre Sonnenblume's avatar

Three cheers for Nettles!

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Kollibri terre Sonnenblume's avatar

Sounds great, I'd appreciate more friends!

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Fernanda Haffner, PhD's avatar

We eat the young plantain leaves in Corsica. They are an amazing addition to a green salad bowl! :)

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Amy Walsh's avatar

Definitely! Mixed wild greens are a tasty salad. Though I've been on a big dandelion greens salad kick these days.

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Fernanda Haffner, PhD's avatar

I use them to decorate my cakes :)

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JENNIVIVE OSTARA's avatar

I’ve just found your work (thank you substack reads!) and WOW! you are writing the publication I am aspiring to. from the research and the jargon breakdown to the poetic folklore and recipes, you’ve got such a glorious thing here.

Plantago major seeds can also be used as an egg replacement (exactly as you would chia or flax seeds) in baking! (thankful to Alexis Nikole Nelson for this)

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Amy Walsh's avatar

Wow! Thank you! That’s so kind of you to say. I also did not know Substack Reads shared my work with others, so that's amazing too. I do a plant each month, then kind of let the spirit move me beyond that. My oldest daughter is allergic to eggs, so we’re always looking for good egg replacement, especially ones that work in baking, so this will be fun to experiment with. Do you know if they grind the seeds or use them whole?

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JENNIVIVE OSTARA's avatar

well you’ve found a kindred spirit here! thank you for all your hard work and sharing it.

for the plantago major egg replacement, you collect the seeds after flowering (when they have the brownish tips), dry them, and crush them up (spice grinder/mortar + pestle). then you mix the crushed seeds with water in a 1:2 ratio and let sit till it congeals, 6-12ish hours. then it’s ready to go! I’d love to know what your review of it is if you try it.

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